shvarz: (talking)
shvarz ([personal profile] shvarz) wrote2006-10-03 02:52 pm

Dogville

Thomas Friedman:
We need to stop insulting Islam. It’s enough already. No, that doesn’t mean the pope should apologize. The pope was actually treating Islam with dignity. He was treating the faith and its community as adults who could be challenged and engaged. That is a sign of respect.


Вдруг перекликнулось с недавно посмотренным фильмом Dogville:

How could she ever hate them for what was at bottom merely their weakness? She would probably have done things like those to be fallen
her if she had lived in one of these houses. To measure them by her own yardstick as her father put it. Would she not, in all honesty, have
done the same as Chuck and Vera and Ben and Mrs Henson and Tom and all these people in their houses? Grace paused.

And all of a sudden she knew the answer to her question all too well. If she had acted like them she could not have defended a single one of her actions and could not have condemned them harshly enough. It was as if her sorrow and pain finally assumed their rightful place. No. What they had done was not good enough. And if one had the power to put it to right it was one's duty to do so - for the sake of other towns, for the sake of humanity.

[identity profile] ygam.livejournal.com 2006-10-04 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
We first need to stop insulting African Americans.

[identity profile] russian-o.livejournal.com 2006-10-04 07:42 am (UTC)(link)
Кто хочет драки, тот всегда найдет повод для обиды. Так что, пытаться "to stop insulting" совершенно бессмысленно.

[identity profile] shvarz.livejournal.com 2006-10-04 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Хм, перечитай статью еще раз - там совсем про другое.

[identity profile] russian-o.livejournal.com 2006-10-04 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Так я и согласился с автором. Только пока они хотят драки, ни каких внутренних диалогов не будет. Не надо оно им.

[identity profile] russian-o.livejournal.com 2006-10-04 02:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Вот, очень кстати ссылка. Интересно бы первоисточник найти.

http://www.regnum.ru/news/713774.html

[identity profile] shvarz.livejournal.com 2006-10-04 03:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Похоже что правда, но слегка устаревшая: http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/australia.asp

Почему не стоит читать русские СМИ: http://community.livejournal.com/100_podryad/32685.html

[identity profile] russian-o.livejournal.com 2006-10-04 03:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Ну, я бы не стал обобщать! Про newsru.com я уже писал: http://russian-o.livejournal.com/8371.html

Так что, удивляться не приходится. Я, обычно, смотрю более приличные ленты. И то, если что-то заинтересовало, ищу первоисточники (на хороших сайтах, кстати, сразу ссылку дают на оригинал). А тут, поскольку сайт незнакомый, неплохо было подтверждения поискать. Спасибо за ссылку!