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shvarz ([personal profile] shvarz) wrote2010-11-09 09:48 am

Ужос "Прапалитику"

От жены мне за это влетит по первое число, но по мотивам моего предыдущего поста я ввязался в спор с [livejournal.com profile] arbat. Я о его (арбата) существовании раньше слышал и даже, кажется, читал какие-то споры с его участием, но о его политических воззрениях точно ничего не знал. Поэтому сначала находился в некотором недоумении и не мог понять, о чем он говорит. Но в конце концов разобрался. И теперь нахожусь в некотором недоумении о том, почему к нему в ЖЖ так серьезно относятся и считают глубоким и интересным человеком? Его подход к жизни - подход тинейджера, начитавшегося "философских книжек": "Все очень просто, у меня на все вопросы готов ответ исходя из моей философской схемы в четыре пункта длиной." Это же детский сад...

О, он мне даже отдельный пост посвятил: http://arbat.livejournal.com/499423.html (есть чем гордиться?)

Re: there is something you don't understand about this matter

[identity profile] old-sam.livejournal.com 2010-11-10 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
> try to educate the girl early on, and to give her options for vocational training and otehr education, instill in her pride and self-respect and respect for otehrs, incluuding her fetuses

Doctor, you're certainly way to the right of anyone presented here. This is a pure heresy from the "progressive" perspective. Applause and respect from all the right-wing community. I'll be quoting these words of you left and right, may I?

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Re: there is something you don't understand about this matter

[identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com 2010-11-10 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
be my guest ;-) but i think you do not give "progressives" credit. many whom i know think exactly alike on this issue. for example, in my kids' middle school there was a "progressive" but not mandatory peer education group called G.R.A.P.E. - it did musical theater, skits and comedy on the subject of harrassment, hazing, use of alcohol and drugs, irresponsible sexual behavior including early sex, and they even touched upon rape, and of course on tolerance towards people who are different - in color or language or disability, and the unacceptability of any hostile expression towards such people.

the kids wrote the skits and songs and dances themselves. they [erformed at their schoola nd at local schools in the area.

i don't know all the "outcomes" of the whole school, but the participants in GRAPE were teh stars in highschool, the best, the cleanest kids ever, involved in civics or community service on tehir own (not forced, for college creds)and all went to the best colleges. actually mostly the ivies.

so, "progressives" do the same. education. repetition. learning.

Re: there is something you don't understand about this matter

[identity profile] old-sam.livejournal.com 2010-11-10 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
They are, probably, PINOs - progressives in the name only. :)

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